Do I have a point? or am I just being a penis? I don’t think this guy has much. I bet he’s a hippy. I think this is what happens when you hand a small mind a quote with a big name, and let him embark on the process of free thought.
Him:
Albert Einstein once said:
“He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would fully suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, senseless brutality, deplorable love-of-country stance, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be a part of so base an action! It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder.”
Me:
Einstein said a bunch of stuff. so did I. Once I said “what’s happening to my left nut?” (credit to bri for the stolen funny) and someone laughed. it was pretty cool. Half his discoveries wouldn’t have come about if it hadn’t been for war and it’s resultant environment. defending your country is defending your way of life. It’s honorable. To think otherwise is short sighted.
Him:
I don’t think murder is honorable. by your logic (iggdawg) Iraq should defend themslves from us because we are about to attack them. It is a cycle of violence that would never end. Ghandi said “an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.” What needs to be examined is the reasons for fighting with other nations. A few countries in the middle east hold over half of the worlds total amount of oil. Automobiles are the most profitable industry in the world and oil is their life blood. We are not considering bombing iraq just because they have weapos of mass destruction. Hell, we will be bombong them WITH weapons of mass destruction. The only solution I can think of is to annihilate the reasons for fighting. Why is that so many other countries never bother us?
Me:
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Originally posted by firebirdheadface
I don’t think murder is honorable. by your logic (iggdawg) Iraq should defend themslves from us because we are about to attack them.
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Your definition of murder is skewed. you can’t go around defining terms on a whim. so lets stick with “defense of one’s country” instead of “murder” to avoid a naming conflict. so it follows:
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Originally posted by firebirdheadface
I don’t think defense of one’s country is honorable. by your logic (iggdawg) Iraq should defend themslves from us because we are about to attack them.
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Yes. any country that is under attack should defend themselves. That’s just the way it is. if they do something to provoke us, they must believe whatever that action is was right. or they wouldn’t do it. much less stand by it. so they believe they are acting out of right for one motivational reason or another. it doesn’t matter. they think they are right. so when we retaliate, they should defend themselves. I don’t see anything wrong with that. Personally, viewing them as I do from my perspective, I wish they wouldn’t. I’d love to just overrun them. but that won’t happen. I’m not surprised or disgusted when they defend themselves. you could hardly expect any other reaction.
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Originally posted by firebirdheadface
The only solution I can think of is to annihilate the reasons for fighting.
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I’ll cry with delight when that day comes. but it won’t. Ever. Human nature drives us to up our positions in pecking order. it’s written into our genes and can’t be out-learned or out-evolved. teh reasons for fighting aren’t natural resources or money. those things are only tools of our desire to be on top. its that desire that drives us to war.
When someone invades my country I want our army to drive them off. why should we roll over and let them invade us? if someone comes into your house to take everything you own and kill your family what will you do? will you shoot the man or will you let him steal your things and slaughter your family? let him kill everyone. At least you’ll have your sense of moral satisfaction. even if all countries lay down arms, what would stop another faction from coming along and taking over everyone else? Lets all be complacent and pretend if we all hold hands and sing happy tunes that nothing will ever come along again and stir things up.
Work towards a utopia, but never shed an ounce of hope that it’ll ever come. and keep a gun under your pillow.
PS – I have a BS in physics, so I know a little bit about Einstein. he was a great scientist, but I’ll never quote the man on anything that’s not an equation.
So that’s what I had to say about that. sure it could have used a little refinement butI think I got my point across. He sounds so much like a hippy. I hate hippies… go back to your dorm and smoke a little pot. Listen to some G. Love while you tell your friends your half-assed philosophies on life. One time one of them was telling me how atoms are really planets and, like, it just keeps going on down like that. Niels Bohr is turning in his grave.
I hate hippies.
-IggDawg
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